Building Their First Two Businesses Before 30

What does it actually look like to build your first business — and then decide to open a second location?

In the first episode of The Back Office, Dalayna Dillon sits down with Zach and Maddie Morris, the brother-sister team behind 3 Natives Tulsa and 3 Natives Owasso.

Growing up in a family of franchise operators, Zach and Maddie had a front-row seat to the realities of business ownership long before they opened their own doors. In this conversation, they share what it’s been like stepping into ownership themselves — from choosing the right franchise opportunity to navigating the growing pains that come with expansion.

This is an honest look at the decisions, lessons, and challenges that happen behind the scenes of a growing business.

Inside this episode, we talk about:
• Growing up in an entrepreneurial family
• How they chose 3 Natives as their first business venture
• The moment they knew they were ready to expand
• The biggest growing pains after opening a second location
• Hard lessons and mistakes they’ve learned from
• The decisions that have paid off the most so far

No one has it fully figured out — but they’re building anyway.

Show Notes

Episode 1: Zach & Maddie Morris
 Brother-sister owners of 3 Natives Tulsa and 3 Natives Owasso

3 Natives is a rapidly growing fast-casual health food concept founded in Florida in 2013 by Anthony Bambino. Known for its fresh and often organic menu, the brand focuses on acai bowls, cold-pressed juices, smoothies, wraps, and salads.

Keep up with Zach & Maddie online!

Tulsa Location: @3nativestulsa
 Owasso Location: @3nativesowasso

About The Back Office

Hosted by Dalayna Dillon
Founder & Creative Director of Signify Marketing

The Back Office invites listeners into honest conversations about marketing, growth, leadership, and the real decisions shaping active businesses.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:06

Welcome to the back office. I'm Delena Dylan, the founder and creative director of Signify Marketing, and this is where you sit in on real strategy. Each episode, we are gonna step into an active business and have honest conversations about marketing, growth, leadership, and the decisions shaping what happens next. No one has it fully figured out, but we are building anyway. So today we are sitting down with Zach and Maddie Morris, brother, sister owners of Three Natives, Tulsa, and Owasso to unpack what's really happening behind the scenes of their growth. So, Zach, Maddie, I'm really excited to have you both here. And I'm love, I love getting to talk to people even better when they're you know young people that are actively building something because that's not the norm. You're breaking the norm. So before we get into the business side of things, um, I'd love to start just with hearing a little bit about your story. So I know I heard a little bit that you both grew up, obviously both because they're brother sister, but your parents were also business owners, franchise owners, and I'm sure that shaped a lot about what y'all wanted to do, maybe in the future. So, what was that environment like growing up? Um, so growing up, we watched our parents work very, very hard. Um, our dad and was started the business we saw, and probably for a couple years there, we barely saw him. Um he was working at exapling a club, just ran a both of it and stuff. And I think that really had solved a hard work aspect um of things for us.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

I yeah, I refer to three birthday parties at Trump's chicken. Um it was it was a lot that means still a lot into us. How you need to move, how you need to react, how you need to stay disciplined every single day that needs no excuse.

SPEAKER_03 2:06

So, what were some of the moments growing up that you realized like running, owning and running a busist is actually really hard.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Uh there's a lot of days we watched our and our mom. Our mom does a lot of the paperwork stuff, and she's doing so now and again older out, and uh I don't know how many times I thought they don't know the things we make through this uh that it's it's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Yeah, um, I think even today it's just having the comfort analyze almost uh once you do go home, like you have to have like that country. Um or kind of you know consumes your button. Yeah, it all bleeds over. Yeah. And you're like, wait, what is life? Yeah, that is all together. So when did you all maybe it is different for both of you, but when did you realize that you wanted to run a business, own a business? So I never really did. Um I this was very impulsive of me, so let's uh take this first. So you were the convincing, like, hey, we should do this.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

I actually love she came to me. Okay, okay. I uh um I was talking to my parents about, you know, how can I get into a business? I was still in college at the time. And just, you know, I knew Charlie's like, hey, what if I opened the troys in Edmund? What if I did this? And my dad had a little hard to heart. He's like, hey, when I got in the troys, it's not as expensive. You are 11 years old. So you can't do it. It's not possible right now. Um, and then we ran into the owner of the WASO green items, previous owner. Um, and we sat down and talked for a while and we just went back and forth. And uh ended up I was gonna open one of these little store. Um we actually bounced the location part before Maddie came up to me and was like, hey, let's go out to dinner. I really hate my job. I don't like being in uh being in a cubicle uh nine at five. It's just there's no interaction, there's nothing uh I don't get excited at all.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

But what were you doing before Sat you were like, okay, I don't want to do this anymore? Yeah, I was in a perfect world, that's okay. All my masters, my team world. Um, and yeah, I was just kind of thinking out first when my parents mentioned Zockey's doing this. I was like, no, there's no way I want to get into the industry yet, so why do you guys do this? Yeah, I'll get out. Um and then I kind of wait was thinking about like day to thank my really good update, you know, for eight years. Um and then kind of started weighing up. I was like, oh, this is been a lot of this. Yeah, wait a minute, yeah. Yeah, so okay, tell me where were you? So he was 19, still in college. Where were you at? So I was you were going to math, you were getting your master's, were you like in top? Yeah. Okay, well, I was working at community care. Okay. Um it's happening, yeah. Okay. Um, and then yeah, my master's um. So you hear what little brother's about to do, and you're like, okay, I might want this. Okay. Very cool. So looking back now, what are some of the things that you watched your parents do that you realize now were actually really important lessons for you in this venture? I would say the discipline for sure that's not attention, that is like you can't. That's like uh just getting in here every day, putting your best every night. Um and then eventually one day you're gonna try to really like build teams up and find the best people to the best positions, and starting to be able to trust them and that allows them, which is not easy to trust, to go to find them and then to trust them and release them to do what you hire them to do. Yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

I think um just watching the systems and place continue to be the systems and places in exactly how it's starting to real fast, right?

SPEAKER_03 6:17

So you said you walked into uh Three Natives a lot, so is that what put three natives on your radar, or have you heard about it before?

SPEAKER_02 6:24

I hadn't heard about it before. Um, I was back home getting my waste routine done, and my mom loved the juices. Um not really her normal stuff, like okay, let's go see this place. And uh I understand what's saying. I had just gotten in on the holidays, you know. I had done some different places, and then I tried the nano sauce, and I was like, wow, this is way different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

Um but well, I mean, I mean you did fully go all in, so I mean that does speak something for the product.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

It was yeah, it was more of like you couldn't corner yourself, it's not a niche market which just outside the space. We have a whole food menu, we have the juices. Um, and the atmosphere was just damn. And I loved it. I walked in, they knew my mom's name, she's been in great times, and uh asked about she was knew anything met me, and everybody's just friendly something different I'd never seen before.

SPEAKER_03 7:20

Yeah. Man, you just heard of it through him, I guess. Did you like at least go start going to the location so you can be like, let me try this food out and try I like it? Yes. The craziest part though, so I tried like the juice. I think I tried the juicy suspends. I had not tried the same until I was like screening in it. Like a while. So yeah, it's a little bit involves. You were trusting, you were trusting his decision. Yes, yes. Okay. So what made you confident that this was the right opportunity? Or did you just like go and be like, hopefully this is the right decision?

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Um, I think it was almost like a family atmosphere. I mean, I met the owner of the Wassa store and um we sat down and talked probably about two to three hours. And uh we heard a 19-year-old out. Um, and the next day they finally flew out. We met for like two or three hours again and took a chance on a 19-year-old. Wow. I mean, I didn't turn my back on the because they changed my life.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

So, just for context, there was at this time a three natives in a Wassa, but as far as like the Tulsa market, nothing.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

It was yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Where was the next closest location besides the Wassa? It was back in what a Okay, so there was none in Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Yes, that's the Wassa was the first one.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Yes. So how many in Oklahoma are there now?

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Just the two.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Just two?

SPEAKER_02 8:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:47

Okay, I don't know. I just assumed because it's a great, it's a great product and everything. I just assumed, but okay. So y'all are literally still on the cutting edge of bringing this to Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Yeah, I mean every week we opened the store. I think we're stored in the like 22. That was a good one. Um we're now at like 60 locations, I think. Or we're opening 60 locations of this spreading. So yeah, you might be putting a little growth thing and it's starting to spread up everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

Right. So this is totally like probably not a highlight that you would try to talk about, but we gotta go back because like right after it all opened, or pretty soon after it all in, you had a didn't you have a break-in? Yeah. Okay, I just saw this from a distance and I was like, what is going on? What what how far into being open was it? So it was right at the beginning, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:44

Happy year end.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Oh, happy year, okay. I was like, I felt like it was like the first few months, and I'm like, great, this is a great way to welcome him. Yeah, that was really, really right. Um I came in because I was opening sometime. I was scared of 314 with my everywhere, and I walked up to the door and I just shout her. I was like, doesn't seem real. Yeah. Like that's everything. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

We're a little contrasting with having security setup replacements.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

Well, yeah, it is a safe area. I mean there's other businesses.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

Yeah, I didn't think about saying it's the the target, but you know they want it there good and they're healthy goodness.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

So they just they just break in and then just that's it. Or they took our so we had cash box fonts. Oh, too trusty.

SPEAKER_02 10:37

I've too trusty.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Um spinning long enough of our windself stun, so they took that.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

It wasn't and you didn't really catch them.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

I think so it was a multiple barber kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

Oh, okay. So it's like around the area. Yes. Wait, how about some peanut butter and then something happened in the okay? Yeah, like passing about it, it was a good opportunity to turn into the bargain though.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

We first were like, alright, the news station's here. We're going.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

Hey, that's a that is a good idea. So is that kind of your kind of thinking like that was a good P I don't know who's PER, but yeah, getting the word out, it definitely put it onto those radar that it was here, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

I mean it's a yeah, we have my interest claimed that it's coming back.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

It wasn't as much so it's marking. We got uh we got everything kind of cleaned up with the glass locked up and our door desk started going on, and I was going to close close for day. I can't handle this too much. And then we were order after order at seven in the morning, our skin. People are stepping over piles of glass, trying to get in, like, hey, it's still open. Like, I guess I was just watching this like all unfold. It's like I don't know if there's a sign or what, but the community just kind of gathered. It was cool to watch, you know, okay, we're doing this. Yeah. We got some flexiglass put in place for the time and figured it out.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Okay, so you open your first location, and what month was this? This was three years ago, like in the July. Okay, so perfect time of year for like juices and all side. And also, I might mention it's perfect location because you're right by gym. So I'm assuming that's like a natural thing. People come on over after the gym, get their workout on, come over, get something eat. Yeah. So did you are all of these things that made you make the decision to be here, like at this particular location? Because I'm I'm assuming you had to scout out locations.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Um actually, um, my dad uh was looking when we were I had like crap when we were looking for locations. And uh I was kind of hanging on by a thread while he's pulling me around different spots and uh I did nonstop. Uh we found this one and he's like, second, this is gonna be good.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

And I was like, So he came here and was like, this is gonna be a good.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Yes. So it's actually his call. Okay. You know, we came down to like three different locations, and this is the one, this is the one. We talked about uh what we were on uh somebody first doing do, I believe. Okay. It's that corner where you know we change with different ownerships like once every three months, and he's like, You're not just fine.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

And so uh he's like, hey, this is lit. And so I'll think it's gonna be enough room, it's tiny.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

Yeah, I mean it is small, but y'all maximize every part of it. I mean, so really well coming from the Alasta store, like training there, it's what 300 square foot. Oh wow, so it's a lot bigger. It's a lot bigger. Um so then coming in here at first, you're like, oh my gosh, yeah, we adjusted.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

800 square foot balls, it's I and it's just every time I walk in here, it's like, you know, this is the sort, this is the sort of place. Yeah. Just takes me back a little bit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

So what got you to the place where you're like, okay, we're ready to take on a second location? So we've been working on a second location, I think almost gosh, it's been so long now, a year and a half two years. Okay. Um we just haven't found anything that's right or the right location, right timing. Um we've actually been working on broken arrow for it's been eight months probably. So that's where you got your eye gone. Yes. Um, this is what's coming up. Yes, you're finger. Uh but yeah, once the losso became available, we're like, we'll have to we grew up in the Walso, we know people out there that we trained out there, how we're growing how we can store. Yeah. Um yeah, it was the right thing, I think. So y'all took ownership from the previous owner, but it was where you start, it's where you were introduced to three natives. So that's really cool.

unknown 15:06

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

So, what was that transition like? Because it's a huge difference between running one store and running two, which it helps if there's two of you. So that helps.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

Uh I think we'll hope it's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Still? Still. Still. But I is that not the life, right?

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Yes. I uh the transition was date for sure.

SPEAKER_03 15:27

Um we have like a month to get everything in order and uh spread with open and uh so the whole thing was very fast, like the whole transition was about how long? Yeah, huh? Well, so the family that originally went back to Florida in June to get shut down, and then by October first, yeah. Wow, we were told that it was ours and then um Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

It was yeah, it was hectic. Um you spent a lot of the time here when the person was up there cleaning. Um we drew together a group where our student size and matching. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

For people that had never done the business. Or did you put them right in here?

SPEAKER_02 16:17

We trained them here.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Okay. So that was helpful. You could put them right in here to transition a bit. Wow. It looks unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Um but yeah, and we threw together a team and not even like we've done this before, and it looks uh we had the wrong mindset. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

I think we whenever we first opened a closed boat, we were like out of the sounds and we were like, okay, we're gonna hang that first in this, and then to kind of have a team, but we're like, oh, we really don't have to be here as much. Yeah, we laugh a little bit, and then getting into a loss though, we're like our mindset is still there, and that should have been, hey, we're gonna from the ground up again. So basically you needed to go back to like how you moved where we started here. So it's like it's gonna be seven days non-stop. But has that sort of has that time kind of gone off? Like, are you still in that or are you kind of moved beyond that? We're like, okay, don't have to be here seven days a week. Oh yeah. So we took one day off a week for the month's quarter because unless it's like fingers or something. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's gone a little bit easier, I'm sure. Yeah, still going up, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Yeah, sometimes too, like you're having a day off and you know second test number is gonna get hit, so that's about it. Oh, we gotta go up.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

I'm guilty.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, so usually my day off. So yeah. And you know, I'm gonna be good at support them, but the amount of time you spent bosses, and it's like, you know, it's like giving one child more than the other.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

Well, with it being a bigger, like square footage space, is it a higher capacity space or is it about the same? It's about the same customer wise. Um we do all our stuff, same thing in Michigan, and you also start on the radio. So a lot of press goes on because yeah. Well then it's a it's a bigger part of the I mean it's a bigger part of the operation. Yes. But pretty equal on as far as like the volume of of orders and customers you have going out. Yeah. So what was the biggest growing pain once you opened the second location? It's like this is really hard right now, but it's a good, I mean it's a growing pain, you know. So that's good because we're growing, but what was the biggest thing? I think just learning the trust early on subvers. Um and then holding them accountable at the same time. Yeah. Um, I think Sakana are a little bit too high sometimes cleaning it, and we're I mean, through the past three years, we've had to learn over and over again we have to start.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

That's why we have to make the tough decisions that we've learned from museum sometimes, and I mean we really do want to create stuff, but you know, yes, uh sometimes we're a little too uh Gen Z of a host, you know, this year.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Well that's a kind of dynamic. I mean it does because a lot of people, you know, are talking through okay, what does it look like to have Gen Z employees these days, right? So a lot of times it's you know, millennials are up that are leading the Gen Z, and it's different. There's a generational gap there, there's differences of you know, thought process and what what is overwhelming, what's not all that good stuff. But I'm sure it's a little different when it's a Gen Z leaving other Gen Z.

unknown 19:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

I mean, what does that look like? Or do you feel like you don't identify as Gen Z?

SPEAKER_02 19:58

I mean, they talk about things more that like I don't get more. I'm 22.

SPEAKER_03 20:03

Exactly. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

But you're not. But you're not.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

I'm not, I'm just not with the times I guess. So I got too much going on with me with the times. Um, but yeah, they I mean, it's definitely weird sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Um I think it's hard to yeah, to find people that are a little bit older, you know, a little more like career focused, I mean it's a career. Um just because we are younger. So it's kind of hungry, I mean because I stuck older how that kind of works.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:37

Well, and honestly, probably people it's not like people ask how old are you as when you're in the interview, so like they probably think you're older than you are, yeah. Just because of that level of leadership that you were in. So they just kind of so I I kind of know the answer to this a little bit, but did y'all's roles change whenever you went to a second location, like as far as what you were doing and mainly focused on? I wouldn't say they really changed. I think it's really happening on what about you were doing. Yeah, um, because initially we were kind of just doing whatever needed to be done, but like I really took over like payroll scheduling, so I'm gonna go over like operations ordering, make sure everything's like good story.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Um I think that's helped us a lot with spent Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

So you try not to have I mean, obviously anyone can set in words needed, but you kind of do have your lanes. So you're more of scheduling, also scheduling, hiring, payroll, employee interaction training. For the most part, yeah. Zach will do the hiring. Oh, he does hire okay. And then yeah, okay. I'll do all new that's the computer stuff. I know.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

Yeah, yeah. Maddie loves like talking to people, but once it's that instead of you can get around your head set. I'm like, oh no, she's she's done with the day.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

For example here, sometimes it was literally disgusting. And I was like, I hate this. You take the arms, I'll make the thing.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

That's okay, as long as you know that, and then you get put where your best stripes are. Okay, so a little bit um maybe a question. What has been Bomber's lesson each of you have learned in business so far? I would say honestly like I guess standing what we want or what we need. Um, what are that we in front of people? Honestly, customers too like you want to provide the most the best customers where you can, but it was a little bit discounting. Right. Uh yeah, that's something that you can well do you think you would be asked so much? Oh yeah, having the same thing, I guess that's yeah, like, yeah, it's funny. Especially, I think we're both really like not passive, but really, you know, friendly people and hang into that gap.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

That's kind of the hardest part too. I mean, the whole world asking for a young nation, and like me, Maddie, we're both kind of the same people. But there was the ones that time probably about a year ago when we were kind of putting ourselves underneath so much stuff. It's like, okay, we gotta step back, make a budget, yes. I mean, it's just I think naive young people trying to start something.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

Yeah, it's like it's not wrong to spend air money in that area, but you need to know how much makes sense. So, how do you make that decision now of like what do you go off what's aligned, or what what it what helps you make that decision now? Just strictly budget? Pretty much, yeah. Like honestly, in burst numbers to remember, yeah, um, and then yeah, so is it a monthly thing? See, I think people need to hear this because I think so many people do exactly what you're doing. They're like, well, I mean, we can, so you know, and then they can even lose track of like how much have we actually given out? Right, that's where we got it can happen so easily. And then we're like, we got our confidence every month or banking every month with those? Yeah, something okay. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%. So um every business has a mobile bank where some things didn't work. You're like, okay, tried it, hated it, not at me. So what's the biggest flop or mistake that y'all have made so far?

SPEAKER_02 24:41

I would say probably trust you. Trusting the wrong people? Yes, and it was more or less maybe like a selfish trust, like a like I wouldn't be like it for a second. Rather than like, I mean, like we were talking about their dad, you know, hey, there is no pay call. We just, you know, trusting the wrong people and kind of having our baby put in a bad position.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

So that's fine. I don't know if that's probably not a good yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Um I would probably say the same thing. We yeah, we got we got to point there for a minute. We're like, you guys got this, we'll be fine, and then we're like, oh, things are not going well. Yeah, then yeah, should adjust and realize that especially training wise, I think the problem with training too at first. Like I don't think that first out knew what they were doing, but um, yeah. Well, I think training too, it sounds so simple, like okay, you know, ABC, but like there's I think especially in this kind of a business, like you want quality control. You want to know that people are getting the same product every single time they come. Like if they come and order their favorite smooth, you want it to taste the same. You want the texture to be like there's that quality control, and it's really just attention to detail that is hard to teach. It's hard to teach someone attention health. Yeah, and especially like since we've been doing this for so long, we're like, you just do this, this and this, yeah. And you're good, yeah. But someone that's internets were kind of like watch them for a couple of days, the sleep chairs, yeah. Yeah. So next to that, biggest mistake or fuck, what has been the one thing or one thing that you have like you can think back and be like, that was a big win. That was like a proud moment. I'm glad you did that. What can you think of? Um, I would say this past Saturday actually, we had an event that we went to, and he was our biggest caterer again. He was. Um, so that was really nice. So you took a bunch of catered like pre-done off site. Okay, yeah. So we we sent two of our employees to an event, but some parallel something based off samples, can and obviously symbols. Um, and then back in my between two stores, the 18, it's like 1006 wraps um per church. So that was awesome. There was a lot of prep work on with my stress pink, getting everything running, but yeah. So catering, I think, am I wrong? Are you calling it a catering? Honestly, it's been really good.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

I would say, yeah. This store especially, yeah, she's got a lot of spots in it. I mean, drug reps, um, catering teachers. Well, um, it's cool. This little spot in solo community now. I remember, you know, every day from the beginning, you know, looking at the store and we have$500 for the day, and I'm like, where is everybody?

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

I just kind of get her name out there, making her wait. She's just getting her public. Well, I mean, someone will text me now and we're like, hey, I need to drink potteries tomorrow. Is that okay? Okay. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 27:59

So well, there's just it is unique. I but I don't know if it's everywhere, but like for here, there's not a lot of options like this. So I think that catering guys have it's such a good spot for the local like me. You know? Healthy catering options is not are not easy to come by. Healthy options is not too. So at this stage of your business, what are you most proud of? Two locations, got a good team, catering, you're killing it. What are you most proud of at this stage? I would say our team here and then the like the regulars. Uh we've really developed a really good relationship a lot of them. Um I think that's really cool because they know us, they know our story, they know what's going on our eyes, they know what's going on in theirs. Um it's been really cool to like make those relationships about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I think it's probably better something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

It's completely different. You know, I noticed that it's been a lot of kind of like it's where it is.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

I was thinking yesterday just kind of working scene, and I didn't call the phone because it's like Saxer, Zax here.

SPEAKER_04 29:19

He's back!

SPEAKER_02 29:21

So there's a whole lot of regular scene, you know.

SPEAKER_03 29:28

Yeah. Yeah, something. So before we close, I always ask for this. What's one thing you don't have fully figured out yet if you're choosing to build through it anyway? I think our management could get better every day, honestly. I don't think we could ever speed up things out in. Um something we're running stay in and day out. I don't handle situations, the snow situations is staying. Yeah. You get that you know that's brand new.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Yeah. Never thought about that before, but yeah.

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I yeah, that one down too. I think uh it's the one that we've felt. Yeah.

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Yeah. So tell everyone where can they find you online? Where can they show up and support you? I know we're in your in your inner South Tulsa location, but tell everyone where they can find you online and in person. Yeah, so we are at Green News Tulsa Instawasa on Instagram and Facebook. Uh-huh. Tulsa and all of a hundred sustainable side. Awesome. Okay, so that is it for this session of the back office. If this conversation gave you clarity, a new angle, or even just the reminder that you're not the only one navigating this, then it did its job. Take what's useful, apply it, move on it because no one has it fully figured out. Or we're building anyway. And if you found this valuable, share it with another operator who is currently building. And you can always hang out with us in between episodes on social media at Signify Marketing Social. I'm Bill Juliana Dillon, and we will meet you again next time.